Gloria Álvarez interviews author, philosopher, and Center for Industrial Progress founder Alex Epstein on some of the issues raised in his book The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. They discuss why energy is the core benefit derived from fossil fuels and why it is “the technology that powers every other technology.” Epstein explains the thinking method that is needed to properly understand and deal with issues like pollution and climate change—and what erroneous premises drive the countless apocalyptic predictions put forward by environmentalists. They also talk about OPEC, nuclear power, why human flourishing is the correct standard for judging the environment, and other thought-provoking  topics.